Monday, January 27, 2014

Keeping 'em at Home


Caraun Reid

I hope many of you got a chance to watch the Senior Bowl this weekend, particularly the strong overall play from Princeton DT Caraun Reid.

I’m starting to think that Reid has a shot to be an early round draft pick, maybe even the earliest pick for an Ivy grad since Columbia’s Marcellus Wiley went in the 2nd round back in 1997.

While this will be a great credit to the league in general, perhaps Reid’s incredible success is bittersweet for Lions fans considering he is a local NYC product and played his HS ball super close to CU at Mount St. Michael Academy in the Bronx.

Columbia hasn’t had much of a pipeline to Mount  St. Michael’s, with just four documented alums coming to play football for the Lions and no one since John Re ’84.

Of course, we should all be aware that the overall quality of high school football in NYC’s public and Catholic school leagues is not what it once was. There are still many super-talented individual players, but the teams themselves would not challenge the kinds of teams coming out of the Catholic school leagues in New Jersey or the public schools in Pennsylvania.

The question is: how did we lose out on Reid in the recruiting process?

Many readers here already know that I don’t believe that CU’s location in New York City is a hindrance to recruiting, in fact I believe it’s a very strong positive lure. But the one exception may be for football players who are from New York City and played their high school ball here.  Getting a change of scenery, especially for a football player who wants to have the larger and greener athletic facilities you find outside of New York, make sense as a reason to not consider Columbia as seriously as a place like Princeton.

In Reid’s case, there may be some other factors at play. He comes from a religious family, (his father is a Bishop), and he is active in his family’s church. I can speak with strong authority when I say that Columbia is not a very comfortable place for most religious people to be. Religious Jewish students are mostly an exception to that rule because of the many decades of work these students have done to create their own community within Columbia, (although this does not insulate them against the horribly anti-Israel leanings from much of the liberal arts faculty), but devout Catholic and Evangelical students at Columbia have a very tough time of it if in general. If that’s the reason why Reid declined or never even considered Columbia, I don’t know if I or anyone can blame him.

That’s especially because Princeton’s student body remains the most conservative, (I know relative term), of all the Ivies. A devout Christian is going to be more comfortable at Princeton than anywhere else in the Ivies and a lot of places in between. That’s much to the chagrin of Princeton’s mostly radical faculty, but that’s a subject for another time.

So here’s the second question: If Columbia is a double minus for city-based high school football stars coming from a good Catholic school or from a devout religious home, how can we help to reverse this trend?

I recommend a two-pronged approach.

First, the ability to stay comfortably cloistered at Columbia from the usual pace of the city needs to be emphasized to the local players and their parents. While it will be easy to come see their sons play every week, the amount of access family and old friends will have to any student at CU is entirely up to the student. My parents lived in NYC during my first year at Columbia and I saw them in person on campus no more than once other than move in and move out day. I might as well have been a student in California. The same goes for the usual hassles of city life. If an individual student wants to remain on campus for all his or her academic, social, and dining needs, it’s easier than ever before to do just that. Columbia can really be a greener pasture within the city limits. This is a message Columbia recruiters need to do a better job of getting across to our local prospects. I suspect the fact that almost all our coaches in all sports aren’t NYC natives or CU alums, hurts us in this regard. You really need to have lived here to understand how Columbia is of the city, and not of the city in many ways.  The simplest way to get this across to a recruit’s family is to say: “Your son will be close by if you need him or he needs you, but there’s also plenty of space for him to grow on his own.”

Second, as hopeless as the Columbia campus proper is for students of faith, there are many houses of worship and adjoining religious communities very willing and able to offer spiritual support. I don’t want to try to list every place because I’ll definitely leave some out, but every denomination and every religious community you can think is active within a few minutes of campus… some of them on foot. As a private school, our recruiters from all sports should have the freedom to help prospective students of faith contact these churches, community organizations, etc. Obviously this kind of partnership could aid recruiting in all areas of the country.

One constant we’ve seen in CU recruiting for 30 years now is a dearth of players coming from the city limits. Usually, the Lions don’t bring in more than one player per class from the five boroughs.


That needs to change.

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

An interesting theory, but I'm going to disagree.

No Ivy League school is very conservative, and the idea of Princeton being more conservative than Columbia is a very old stereotype that went out around the time of the Civil War. Yes, we had a lot J. Crew catalogs lying around but don't confuse polo shirts for ideology. The theory that a conservative person would feel more comfortable in Princeton compared to any other Ivy is, I'm sorry, not true.

Same for religion. All Ivies have religious and non-religious students - check out these religious resources at CC:

http://undergrad.admissions.columbia.edu/learn/studentlife/activities

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/earl/ucm.html

So, no.

More likely, Reid chose Princeton because he liked the coach, liked the campus, liked the classes, and, as you noted, perhaps wanted to be out of immediate parent range but be close enough to visit for holidays. (That Princeton is simply awesome*** may also have been a factor). You grow up in the Bronx and then one day drive up Washington Rd and set food on the plains of 08544 and tell me you are not blown away. It's pretty postcard-worthy.

CU may need to do a better job with NYC recruiting but political/religious atmosphere is likely not the problem.


*** - opinion may be biased based on personal experience

WOF said...

Interesting perspective on this Jake.

How does Fordham recruit from within the City limits?

It amazes me how many Philly and South Jersey area kids will play football at Fordham yet we always seem to lose out to Penn and Princeton....

Jake said...

My guess is that Fordham has an inside track on some of the Catholic school kids for obvious reasons. But I can't believe that at least some of the very good Fordham recruits from around here wouldn't jump at the chance to go to Columbia. Clearly, these are city kids who don't think they NEED to leave the city for college.

Unknown said...

All kids don't want to stay home. They want to experience the world and learn new things in strange and uncomfortable circumstances which in most places is called growing up. With games on TV just about in every league, mom and dad can see Junior if for some reason they can't get to the game. My parents required me and my siblings to go away to college and learn to live mostly on our own with a "life line" when needed. It was great advice for us and I made that requirement of my son.

Unknown said...

Fordham has the advantage of free vs pay. Now that Fordham offers athletic scholarships, that gives them a decided advantage over Columbia.

Jake said...

Yeah, but Fordham was beating us on those kids before the school went scholarship too.

WOF said...

That was sort of my point, Jake. Fordham keeps city kids and also gets the Philly & S Jersey kids, why can't we?

Chick said...

Everyone's talking sociology. That's for the classroom, not the football field or basketball court. Sure there are factors about geography, wanting to be close to home or far from home. But there are dozens of factors like that, and in the end they cancel each other out. The main thing in recruiting is a top-noh coach with top-notch assistants who run a program that student- athletes want to play in. They already know it's a superior education and social/cultural experience at Columbia.

alawicius said...

If you look at recent results, all of our teams were victorious. Can't fault Dianne for that!

repolton said...

I think Jake got carried away in this post. Columbia's recruiting issues have less to do with theology than they a whole range of other factors.
The challenge is to identify athletes who want to be in NYC, want the intensive requirements of the Core for the first two years of their college life, and recognize that they are coming to a school where athletics are extra-curricular and not their job. In other words -- people who like Columbia for being Columbia

Anonymous said...

I always thought CU should be hitting the recruiting trail in their backyard. Pickings are slim in NYC proper but Long Island, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, the whole of New England and the Atlantic seaboard has plenty of qualified talent they have never effectively mined.

Unknown said...

Last night I looked at the recruited kids for ALL D1 schools for the class of 2014 and then I looked at the rosters for all the Ivy teams and have just one concern...why does so many athletes from the power conferences in DC, Maryland and Virginia attend the other Ivy schools (and D1 in general) and not Columbia? We only have 4 kids from those areas on our roster and only one of them played in a power conference. Other Ivy programs get 4 kids from these locations in a class. We can't let the likes of Harvard, Penn and the rest have the best kids!

Ungvar said...

Recruiting wish list

- A couple monster DLs to stop the run up the middle. Padilla's fantastic but he has no backup.
- Kickers!!! We have a single freshman on the roster now.
- A few more solid LBs. Who will step up and fill Olinger's shoes?

Thoughts from anyone else?

Unknown said...

Yes! A dual threat QB, the monster DT's you speak of and a couple of "ball hawking" DB's.

WOF said...

An admin that cares and a head coach that can lead us to victories !