Monday, December 13, 2021

Transfer Troubles




For those of you now following the dizzying transfer portal activity for CU Lions players and players all across the league... 


Consider yourselves lucky.

Because the activity is frantic and also... in many ways... sad. 

First off, here's a list of some of the bigger names from the Lions 2021 roster who have entered the transfer portal. (Some of them have no Ivy eligibility left, and some have one year left)

Jordan Colbert

Ryan Young

Mike Roussos

Dante Miller 

Cam Dillon

There are probably others, but these are the headline names. 

The kicker is that from what I've seen so far for CU's potential transfers and for all the Ivy players from all the schools is that the offers they're getting are... unimpressive. 

Now, for someone like me who's had 20 different addresses in his life from all my moving around over the years, it may seem hypocritical if I simply pour cold water on CU students leaving the city for Kentucky Christian or UConn. So I won't make it about locales. I will make it about the fact that I think too many Ivy players with eligibility are making a mistake based on rare experiences like the one being enjoyed by former Dartmouth WR Drew Estrada at Baylor and former CU punter Cam Nizialek's experience at Georgia a few years ago. The fact is, their experiences came at a time when the transfer ranks were much smaller and the chances much better to hook up with an exciting and national championship caliber team. 

That is not the case now. 

I fear a lot of our former players and others will be disappointed by their options in the portal. More importantly, I fear they will regret missing out on that final semester or two on campus with their friends and classmates that you can never get back. 

And again, this is not sour grapes because a lot of the players above could not come back to CU Football anyway because of Ivy rules. 

This is just a weird COVID-related development that presents a little false "gold" for a lot of Ivy players. 

UPDATE: I should also mention that I think the Ivy League's rules for potential 5th year players, even during this COVID era, are still way too cumbersome and costly for the scholar-athletes and their families. Maybe if these rules were relaxed, some semblance of continuity could be achieved now and in the future. 

On the OTHER hand...

There is a chance the transfer portals could be filled with eligible players from smaller schools who might want to COME TO Columbia or the other Ivy schools and make an impact. 

With the exception of the good players the Ivy schools recruited during high school and lost to those other schools, the process may also turn out to be a disappointment. But hope probably springs eternal at some of the schools that are struggling football-wise right now. If I had to guess, Brown and maybe Penn will make a run at some top transfer talent in the coming weeks. 

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Jake, a few follow-up questions--Can you tell us which of the players you identified no longer has IL eligibility? I was pretty sure Ryan Young was in that category and Dante Miller was not, but that was based on no more than blog post hearsay. If a player's IL eligibility is exhausted, why wouldn't getting a free year of graduate school education paid for, not to mention the chance to experience another university's athletic, social and academic offerings, be a no-brainer, whether you actually get to play or not? Also, is it a foregone conclusion that a player with IL eligibility who enters the portal won't, after assessing options, return to the program for another year (or more)? Is there reason to believe that Columbia may face more harm from such transfers than its IL peers?

Roar Lion said...

We have seen in basketball that All-Ivy players who transfer tend to do well -- Grant Mullens started at Cal and led the team in minutes, Mike Smith starred at Michigan, Stefanini is a key player for USF. So I have no doubt the five you list will contribute to FBS teams next fall. Selfishly, I'd prefer those with eligibility stay and try to win an Ivy title, but it sucks to take a semester off from school and delay graduation. Good luck to them. Guys who are not all-Ivy are much less likely to get offers and may end up in a lower level FCS. The Ivy is a top-heavy league, the middle level players are not going to play in FBS. CU has had a lot of basketball transfers under Engles, and the guys who were not all-Ivy tend to not play at the next stop.

Tod Howard Hawks (I am not the "Unknown" who was credited with my remarks of late) said...

Am I missing something here?

I cannot tell in all five cases above which players have, and do not have, an additional year at Columbia, if they choose to exercise that option.

Could you please indicate which players have the option to play at Columbia one more year?

As for those who already know which school they have decided to transfer to, would you please list those who will be leaving Columbia and the school they will play for next fall?

Thanks.

TOD HOWARD HAWKS

Another NJ Lion said...

BTW .... Bruce Wood of BGA mentioned that he was surprised that no current Dartmouth players had gotten FBS offers .... all the offers to date for Dartmouth players were from other FCS programs (top FCS schools like JMU but not FBS offers) .... He did note that a Cornell OL guy did get an offer from Penn St, Iowa, Nebraska, and several other FCS teams .... the kid fits the mold for a linemen at a Power 5 school (6'4"/310) .... Looks like Jake is right .... there's an overabundance of talent for probably 2 few spots .... An FBS team has to make a decision on a HS kid who could play for 4 years OR an IL grad transfer (typically) for 1 year .... I suspect there are limited slots available for top Power 5 teams to pick up a 1-and-done player unless he's a definite starter .... So, I'd expect that the CU transfer portal guys will probably get other FCS offers .... Also, these other offers come with tuition where as if they stay at Columbia they are most probably be on the own dime in grad school .... incentive to transfer elsewhere I think ...

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Unknown said...

In my opinion the five men mentioned in this article have given a lot to Columbia Football. Everyone of them is an All Ivy player at some level of the accolade, fight through injury and have significant reasons for moving on.

Using the term unimpressive in this day of the portal is a little slighting. Any player who receives another opportunity to play and continue their education is beating the odds, with only 72% of entries in 2021 receiving offers (10 months ago).

As a parent of a transfer portal athlete, I am totally excited and overwhelmed at the FCS offers he has received, the two PWO offers from the B1G and ACC, as well as the other teams that have reached out.

For my son as long as the grass is green, the lines are white, the ball is brown and he's afforded the opportunity to play and receive his graduate degree. We are very impressed with that.

Steven J Colbert

Jordan Colbert '22 #10

Dr. Jim said...

Mr. Colbert,
Your son helped CU a lot this year.
Thanks for his (and your) dedication to CU football and I wish him success as he goes on.