We have become a practice scrimmage for the rest of the league. PM needs to go, but he can't be the only excuse for our poor performance. I hope a current player emerges to lead and inspire the team. You can't coach heart.
I was at the game today and sat with Jake for a bit. It's so sad to watch these kids out there. We were overmatched in every aspect of the game. Coach Reno's game plan was executed perfectly; conversely, Pete's was pathetic. We had no answer for short passes. Varga made our LBs and safeties look silly (especially his spin move after his 26 yard gain. Can anyone please wrap up and tackle???!! The Streak is 018 and counting... thanks Pete!!!
i don't really know what to make of this game. Flashes of good play but four interceptions plus three criticL DROPS WERE KILLERS! The defense was better in the red zone and actually made some plays. While I must confess that I watched it on the video feed, I felt that the kids never quit. My conclusion , however, remains the same, that we need to clean house on the entire coaching staff, I can't help but feel that we are are practice game for the rest of the league.
The other factor that we must take into consideration is next year's recruiting class... Pete and Staff have already made offers to the majority of the incoming class (as most of the other Ivies have as well). Now Pete's legacy screws us! Based on how he has recruited over the past three years, we have no depth anywhere, except on the bench. We will need to hire an excellent recruiter. Keep in mind getting a 3 week jumpstart on recruiting will only help the program. Get rid of Pete now!
This team is not improving and to suggest otherwise is not in the best interests of the players -- who need a big time "house cleaning" of leadership asap. What should acknowledged is how this program has hit bottom, with the good news being that there's nowhere to go but up. The bad news is that going nowhere is also an option, and maybe the one we're most likely to see.
But if a change is made, by far the most important need in a new staff will be outstanding and proven recruiting ability. Mitch S. 68CC
RLB, just a few short years ago Yale was behind Columbia and now we are on a different planet.
We are not making progress...other teams are managing the games so they are not blow outs. If anybody doubts this, go look at the tapes of the last two games.
Where is Danny Boy White? All this progress he talked about. Well, I am sure glad his word is Gospel because who knows where we would be without his keen insights.
Actually, Recco and Licata thought that the defense actually played a decent game. Bend but don't break in the middle of the field and tighten up in the red zone. Tighten up in the red zone. It basically worked. we gave up a lot of yards but made some good stops and held Yale to a lot of field goals. If we had a competent offense it might have been a game. But except for Molina we were pretty bad on offense. McDonagh is a tough kid but really isn't a good passer. And the receivers are awful, except for Flanagan. Even Connors, who I like a lot, had a drop or two.
We must have watched a different game. Yale was practicing. If they played us with the same intensity they used against legitimate opponents this year they would have outscored us by 70 or more. We did not hold them to anything.
What troubles me is that Cornell looks to have put up a pretty good fight against Princeton; much tougher than what we did. So our one reasonable shot for a win is even more problematic.
Old Lion, are our lads using aliases now, like Flanagan for Flannery? LOL. Looks like the season, such as it is, depends on the Cornell game, our only chance to finish 1-9 instead of 0-10. Choices, choices.
"Yale Outlasts Football" -- this is the headline of the ridiculous article about the game on the CU athletics site.There's something positively Stalinist about such a falsification -- even on an admittedly garbage site -- and it's insulting to anyone who cares about the program. It also mocks any clear thinking about real change with its sheer dishonesty. On the other hand, the WKCR student broadcasters are excellent. Mitch S. 68CC
Mr. G, expect no objectivity or accountability from the AD website. On the other hand, the Hartford Courant;s headline reads, "Rich and Varga run Yale past lowly Columbia."
That's what they wrote...:"lowly." In other words, our program is so unsuccessful that mainstream media are willing to replace civility with mockery/
1010 WINS and 880 Newsradio made a point of mentioning the Columbia score in every sports update yesterday just so they could add in the fact that we've now lost 18 in a row. This is close to the tipping point even for the admin, which fears the imagined gibes from the anti-athlete elites if someday we do win the most, but loathes the added attention football gets when we rack up historic losing streaks a close second.
Hopefully the embarrassing press intensifies. That seems the only way to light a fire under the decision makers. Though, the real mockery remains. A lame duck AD under no apparent scrutiny to admit a mistake was made with hiring PM to begin with. Then getting things on track to right the ship. A transparent and earnest hiring process that includes the football alumni is the way to go. Will they have the integrity to do that is the question.
The ILDN announcers need to look for any bright spots to talk about. It's not so easy to sit there for 3+ hours and stay neutral. Any small victories are raised but those guys can see the truth as everyone else can.
A benign correction to your penultimate statement; they are not "anti-athlete elites", but rather "aesthetes". Don't assign those non-accomplishing prejudiced lotus eaters any status they don't deserve, and "elite" is undeserved.
I differ with Mr. Gefiltefish who lauds the WKCR announcers. To have to listen to that crew strive to outdo each other by non-stop ridiculing, maligning, and laughingly mocking our team is just sickening. Sure our team is weak, but if all you can do is tear them down without an encouraging word, then I say get the hell off the air, you Benedict Arnolds -- WHO NEEDS YOU!!
Football Alumni getting involved? Are you serious? Where has the alumni been in the last 50 years? They are as much responsible for the football fiasco as the previous 50 year administration. The alumni pressure has been non-existent. Only now have concerned alums like yourself finally making a statement!
Coach, who else within the institution and athletic department in particular has a notion what would make a good football coach? There are so many variables that go into it but only people who have played the sport and have been part of the CU culture know what is best for the program. I haven't set foot on campus in decades and even i know the people that have been making decisions on coaching hires in the building are not qualified to do so (and I haven't needed this blog to make me aware of this fact).
Ha, I too enjoy reading the weekly Pravda of the CU Athletics Dept. Granted, all AD sites do this (Princeton is no different) but it is amusing to watch them twist and turn and try not to say anything negative. (Clearly they are exhausting the thesaurus for "loses"). Here are the headlines from all of the games in the current streak:
Yale Outlasts Football Football Setback by Dartmouth on Homecoming Football Loses at Penn Football Downed by Monmouth Football Slips to Princeton in Rain Football Falls to #24 Albany in Capital District Football Falls To Fordham In Season Opener Football Concludes Season with Loss to Brown Football Drops Tough Game at Cornell Football Defeated by Harvard Football Loses at Yale Football Falls on the Road to Dartmouth Penn Tops Football, 21-7, on Homecoming Football Downed by No. 14/17 Lehigh, 24-10 Football Loses at Princeton Football Falls in Home Opener to Monmouth Football Drops Season Opener to No. 21 Fordham Football Falls at Brown 22-6
Some of them are so minimalist you have to admire it. Leaving out the score in the blowout games is also a nice touch. The others seem to desperately be trying to find something else to talk about -- the weather, the location...
The Spec is much better - for example, "Lions struggle to contain Bulldogs ground attack, fall to 0-7" or "Promising start fizzles as football falls to Penn, 31-7" or "Football blown out 49-7 in season opener".
Ha, ha, now the WKCR kids are to blame. They are "Benedict Arnolds" according to Alawicius, who screams at them, "Who needs you?"
Who needs you, Al-who-is-not-us? Who needs Bollinger, Murphy and Mangurian? Why don't you scream at them, Al-the-vicious? The Admin is in charge, not the WKCR kids. The Admin can't even be forthright with its admission that Murphy screwed up football like her predecessors, which is why they canned her via her "resignation" padded by a full year's salary as a lamer duck than she already is. They "wish her success" in her next career step, which will be sewing sneakers in Guatemala. Give us a break from the BS.
Columbia has never hired an AD who has ran a successful football program. Why is such a person so hard to find? The Head Coach should: 1. A successful Head Coach, regardless of the level. 2. Proven track record of recruiting 3. Firm Understanding of Financial Aid and Ivy Admissions. 4. Ability to kick the crap out of anybody in the administration who gets in his way.
Yes 3d5, its brilliant ! Yale "outlasted football" but did they actually beat Columbia handily? Why no! Football was the victim of a mere outlastation...
Coach, re #4, that is exactly the problem we are up against, is tensions have reached that point. Naturally, physical altercations won't solve the problem regardless. However, the same level of shocking the administration out of their denial is what is required. Columbia is so successful in areas outside football that everyone is willing to be completely blind towards the elephant in the room. It has reached epic proportions with Ivy teams who have a clue having pity on the field, dialing it back so as to not embarrass their Ivy brethren.
The solution is so easy and so maddeningly simple yet the buffoons choose to ignore it.
HIRE A HEAD COACH THE PLAYERS CAN BELIEVE IN, NOT SOME BULLY SCHMUCK WHO CAN'T GET ALONG WITH ANYONE AND OSTRACIZES PEOPLE. When you have a program that the players buy into, that attracts recruits and you build off of it. Look at case examples in their own conference.
This is is just the tip of Pete's iceberg of problems. Yet there he is making what is it 4- 5 hundred grand? How much per loss does that come out to? Are we stuck with this guy in perpetuity or what is the game plan to eject him?
So, if I were a player on this team and wanted to voice my protest against this coach, how would any of you suggest one go about it? Obviously one would not go to the coach . Would you go to the AD? Is she really going to do anything? So, who then? Rather than complain, how can we help the players as I am sure there is a chasm, one which has only been fueled by our lovely coach. Does anybody have real, actionable suggestions?
Nice misdirection, Alawicius. We probably could use you in the backfield. You ought to be contrite about insulting the student announcers on WKCR for telling the truth about the mishandling of our football program. As for your antiquated screenplay, you must have written it at the same time Columbia last won a game.
Allie, what you continue to fail to realize is that the admin, the AD, and the coach are all collectively responsible for this pathetic state of our program. Diane went out on a limb, she knew the risks, and she lost.
She knew Pete personally so how in the world did she miss that his personality was going to be an issue during the rebuilding process?
And PM claims that this was a total rebuild from the get go. IO don't recall that being his pitch early on but just to play along: If that is true, than please explain to me why he chose to alienate and ostricize the seniors, former players and fans right away? Shouldn't he have been sharp enough to realize that he would need their patience and support as he went about this long term rebuilding project?
I honestly want to hear your views on these questions. I feel as if I have been asking you and Danny White (what ever happened to "him"?) for months now and neither of you have answered.
WOF- Murphy found a coach with a top résumé- Head Coach in the Ivy League, years in the NFL, and considered to be an excellent football coach- but probably not the personality for Columbia- Before Columbia hires the right football coach, they need to hire the right Athletics Director, and that comes from the administration. I truly hope that the alums put pressure on the hiring of an AD who has successfully driven a football program. Columbia has never hired that person. Columbia also needs to do a full study regarding the football program with outside consultants. Lets here what other professionals have to say. They should bring in AD's and former coaches and players throughout the country for this study. Time to take a professional approach.
Totally agree. But I don;t believe you necessarily need to be a football person to gauge someone's personality and how it might fit at CU. Also, I suppose CU could say that Diane was part of the organization that drove success at Cornell as defense to your theory about having an AD with prior football success.
I am not arguing with anything you say only pointing out that Diane, football person or not, as the AD, should have weighed the risks of hiring someone with his personality for a job like this.
As a female fan said, "Lose the baby blue" (check out the N.C. Tarheels these days). I know we can't lose it entirely, but we need more black, like our Rose Bowl team had (check the old pics).Image counts, especially in football.
CAEC has been asking CU for exactly what you describe for over a year. We have been met with disdain and a wall of silence. This will change only when the admin gets shoved out of its comfort zone.
Andy Noel, the AD at Cornell, hired Mangurian - Murphy was not in the loop- having said that, Murphy was very well liked by all the football coaches at Cornell. I just think it becomes easier for Columbia football to have an AD who really understands the league- admissions and financial aid, and a football background-Would like to see a list of prospects that have Ivy League administrative experience, as Diane had, I will say, but with a football background.
Uniforms don't mean anything and UNC has not had any success at all. In fact, their entire athletics program is at risk thanks to an academic fraud scandal.
I don't think you can say "uniforms don't mean anything." I've often seen comments regarding recruits who weigh the uniform factor into their choice of schools. Oregon, for one, has done quite well with their focus on uniforms, and there are many others who evolve and change to suit the times and temper of their program. A strong-looking uniform, while not guaranteeing victory, is a plus. We could stand some improvement in that area.
Coach, I agree with much of what you said, but this coach was no success. if anybody did any leg work they would have quickly realized he was hated by many of his former players and other coaches. This doesn't make him a bad coach, but it should have tipped the cap to those that "know" what to look for. Oh wait, we dont have any of those people on the selction committee.
Mangurian's rep in the NFL was that he was very smart, excellent coach, but a "hard-ass", tough, and sometimes difficult to work with. That can be said,however, for many successful coaches .
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So far, so good. We're tied at 0-0.
Nice defensive effort.However, outcome never in doubt...
We have become a practice scrimmage for the rest of the league. PM needs to go, but he can't be the only excuse for our poor performance. I hope a current player emerges to lead and inspire the team. You can't coach heart.
I was at the game today and sat with Jake for a bit. It's so sad to watch these kids out there. We were overmatched in every aspect of the game. Coach Reno's game plan was executed perfectly; conversely, Pete's was pathetic. We had no answer for short passes. Varga made our LBs and safeties look silly (especially his spin move after his 26 yard gain. Can anyone please wrap up and tackle???!! The Streak is 018 and counting... thanks Pete!!!
i don't really know what to make of this game. Flashes of good play but four interceptions plus three criticL DROPS WERE KILLERS! The defense was better in the red zone and actually made some plays. While I must confess that I watched it on the video feed, I felt that the kids never quit. My conclusion , however, remains the same, that we need to clean house on the entire coaching staff, I can't help but feel that we are are practice game for the rest of the league.
The other factor that we must take into consideration is next year's recruiting class... Pete and Staff have already made offers to the majority of the incoming class (as most of the other Ivies have as well). Now Pete's legacy screws us! Based on how he has recruited over the past three years, we have no depth anywhere, except on the bench. We will need to hire an excellent recruiter. Keep in mind getting a 3 week jumpstart on recruiting will only help the program. Get rid of Pete now!
This team is not improving and to suggest otherwise is not in the best interests of the players -- who need a big time "house cleaning" of leadership asap. What should acknowledged is how this program has hit bottom, with the good news being that there's nowhere to go but up. The bad news is that going nowhere is also an option, and maybe the one we're most likely to see.
But if a change is made, by far the most important need in a new staff will be outstanding and proven recruiting ability.
Mitch S. 68CC
RLB, just a few short years ago Yale was behind Columbia and now we are on a different planet.
We are not making progress...other teams are managing the games so they are not blow outs. If anybody doubts this, go look at the tapes of the last two games.
Where is Danny Boy White? All this progress he talked about. Well, I am sure glad his word is Gospel because who knows where we would be without his keen insights.
Varga was hardly contained today. It was game plan light for Yale.
Actually, Recco and Licata thought that the defense actually played a decent game. Bend but don't break in the middle of the field and tighten up in the red zone. Tighten up in the red zone. It basically worked. we gave up a lot of yards but made some good stops and held Yale to a lot of field goals. If we had a competent offense it might have been a game. But except for Molina we were pretty bad on offense. McDonagh is a tough kid but really isn't a good passer. And the receivers are awful, except for Flanagan. Even Connors, who I like a lot, had a drop or two.
We must have watched a different game. Yale was practicing. If they played us with the same intensity they used against legitimate opponents this year they would have outscored us by 70 or more. We did not hold them to anything.
What troubles me is that Cornell looks to have put up a pretty good fight against Princeton; much tougher than what we did. So our one reasonable shot for a win is even more problematic.
Old Lion, are our lads using aliases now, like Flanagan for Flannery? LOL.
Looks like the season, such as it is, depends on the Cornell game, our only chance to finish 1-9 instead of 0-10. Choices, choices.
"Yale Outlasts Football" -- this is the headline of the ridiculous article about the game on the CU athletics site.There's something positively Stalinist about such a falsification -- even on an admittedly garbage site -- and it's insulting to anyone who cares about the program. It also mocks any clear thinking about real change with its sheer dishonesty. On the other hand, the WKCR student broadcasters are excellent.
Mitch S. 68CC
Mr. G, expect no objectivity or accountability from the AD website. On the other hand, the Hartford Courant;s headline reads, "Rich and Varga run Yale past lowly Columbia."
That's what they wrote...:"lowly." In other words, our program is so unsuccessful that mainstream media
are willing to replace civility with mockery/
1010 WINS and 880 Newsradio made a point of mentioning the Columbia score in every sports update yesterday just so they could add in the fact that we've now lost 18 in a row. This is close to the tipping point even for the admin, which fears the imagined gibes from the anti-athlete elites if someday we do win the most, but loathes the added attention football gets when we rack up historic losing streaks a close second.
1010 WINS and 880 almost never do any Ivy football scores in their updates,FYI. But to dig on us, they're making an exception.
Hopefully the embarrassing press intensifies. That seems the only way to light a fire under the decision makers. Though, the real mockery remains. A lame duck AD under no apparent scrutiny to admit a mistake was made with hiring PM to begin with. Then getting things on track to right the ship. A transparent and earnest hiring process that includes the football alumni is the way to go. Will they have the integrity to do that is the question.
The ILDN announcers need to look for any bright spots to talk about. It's not so easy to sit there for 3+ hours and stay neutral. Any small victories are raised but those guys can see the truth as everyone else can.
Jake
A benign correction to your penultimate statement; they are not "anti-athlete elites", but rather "aesthetes". Don't assign those non-accomplishing prejudiced lotus eaters any status they don't deserve, and "elite" is undeserved.
I differ with Mr. Gefiltefish who lauds the WKCR announcers. To have to listen to that crew strive to outdo each other by non-stop ridiculing, maligning, and laughingly mocking our team is just sickening. Sure our team is weak, but if all you can do is tear them down without an encouraging word, then I say get the hell off the air, you Benedict Arnolds -- WHO NEEDS YOU!!
Allie
Football Alumni getting involved? Are you serious? Where has the alumni been in the last 50 years? They are as much responsible for the football fiasco as the previous 50 year administration. The alumni pressure has been non-existent. Only now have concerned alums like yourself finally making a statement!
Coach, who else within the institution and athletic department in particular has a notion what would make a good football coach? There are so many variables that go into it but only people who have played the sport and have been part of the CU culture know what is best for the program. I haven't set foot on campus in decades and even i know the people that have been making decisions on coaching hires in the building are not qualified to do so (and I haven't needed this blog to make me aware of this fact).
Ha, I too enjoy reading the weekly Pravda of the CU Athletics Dept. Granted, all AD sites do this (Princeton is no different) but it is amusing to watch them twist and turn and try not to say anything negative. (Clearly they are exhausting the thesaurus for "loses"). Here are the headlines from all of the games in the current streak:
Yale Outlasts Football
Football Setback by Dartmouth on Homecoming
Football Loses at Penn
Football Downed by Monmouth
Football Slips to Princeton in Rain
Football Falls to #24 Albany in Capital District
Football Falls To Fordham In Season Opener
Football Concludes Season with Loss to Brown
Football Drops Tough Game at Cornell
Football Defeated by Harvard
Football Loses at Yale
Football Falls on the Road to Dartmouth
Penn Tops Football, 21-7, on Homecoming
Football Downed by No. 14/17 Lehigh, 24-10
Football Loses at Princeton
Football Falls in Home Opener to Monmouth
Football Drops Season Opener to No. 21 Fordham
Football Falls at Brown 22-6
Some of them are so minimalist you have to admire it. Leaving out the score in the blowout games is also a nice touch. The others seem to desperately be trying to find something else to talk about -- the weather, the location...
The Spec is much better - for example, "Lions struggle to contain Bulldogs ground attack, fall to 0-7" or "Promising start fizzles as football falls to Penn, 31-7" or "Football blown out 49-7 in season opener".
Ha, ha, now the WKCR kids are to blame. They are "Benedict Arnolds" according to Alawicius, who screams at them, "Who needs you?"
Who needs you, Al-who-is-not-us? Who needs Bollinger, Murphy and Mangurian? Why don't you scream at them, Al-the-vicious? The Admin is in charge, not the WKCR kids. The Admin can't even be forthright with its admission that Murphy screwed up football like her predecessors, which is why they canned her via her "resignation" padded by a full year's salary as a lamer duck than she already is. They "wish her success" in her next career step, which will be sewing sneakers in Guatemala.
Give us a break from the BS.
Columbia has never hired an AD who has ran a successful football program. Why is such a person so hard to find?
The Head Coach should:
1. A successful Head Coach, regardless of the level.
2. Proven track record of recruiting
3. Firm Understanding of Financial Aid and Ivy Admissions.
4. Ability to kick the crap out of anybody in the administration who gets in his way.
Chick makes me feel contrite that I penned a character in my screenplay, a prescient young boy, named "Chick." "Et tu, Brute?"
Allie
Yes 3d5, its brilliant !
Yale "outlasted football" but did they actually beat Columbia handily?
Why no! Football was the victim
of a mere outlastation...
Coach, re #4, that is exactly the problem we are up against, is tensions have reached that point. Naturally, physical altercations won't solve the problem regardless. However, the same level of shocking the administration out of their denial is what is required. Columbia is so successful in areas outside football that everyone is willing to be completely blind towards the elephant in the room. It has reached epic proportions with Ivy teams who have a clue having pity on the field, dialing it back so as to not embarrass their Ivy brethren.
The solution is so easy and so maddeningly simple yet the buffoons choose to ignore it.
HIRE A HEAD COACH THE PLAYERS CAN BELIEVE IN, NOT SOME BULLY SCHMUCK WHO CAN'T GET ALONG WITH ANYONE AND OSTRACIZES PEOPLE. When you have a program that the players buy into, that attracts recruits and you build off of it. Look at case examples in their own conference.
This is is just the tip of Pete's iceberg of problems. Yet there he is making what is it 4- 5 hundred grand? How much per loss does that come out to? Are we stuck with this guy in perpetuity or what is the game plan to eject him?
So, if I were a player on this team and wanted to voice my protest against this coach, how would any of you suggest one go about it?
Obviously one would not go to the coach . Would you go to the AD? Is she really going to do anything? So, who then?
Rather than complain, how can we help the players as I am sure there is a chasm, one which has only been fueled by our lovely coach.
Does anybody have real, actionable suggestions?
Chick, I'm not "blaming" KCR, just lamenting their total lack of support. Do they go to Columbia or not?? It's just that simple, really.
Nice misdirection, Alawicius. We probably could use you in the backfield. You ought to be contrite about insulting the student announcers on WKCR for telling the truth about the mishandling of our football program. As for your antiquated screenplay, you must have written it at the same time Columbia last won a game.
Allie, what you continue to fail to realize is that the admin, the AD, and the coach are all collectively responsible for this pathetic state of our program. Diane went out on a limb, she knew the risks, and she lost.
She knew Pete personally so how in the world did she miss that his personality was going to be an issue during the rebuilding process?
And PM claims that this was a total rebuild from the get go. IO don't recall that being his pitch early on but just to play along: If that is true, than please explain to me why he chose to alienate and ostricize the seniors, former players and fans right away? Shouldn't he have been sharp enough to realize that he would need their patience and support as he went about this long term rebuilding project?
I honestly want to hear your views on these questions. I feel as if I have been asking you and Danny White (what ever happened to "him"?) for months now and neither of you have answered.
Please respond
WOF- Murphy found a coach with a top résumé- Head Coach in the Ivy League, years in the NFL, and considered to be an excellent football coach- but probably not the personality for Columbia- Before Columbia hires the right football coach, they need to hire the right Athletics Director, and that comes from the administration. I truly hope that the alums put pressure on the hiring of an AD who has successfully driven a football program. Columbia has never hired that person. Columbia also needs to do a full study regarding the football program with outside consultants. Lets here what other professionals have to say. They should bring in AD's and former coaches and players throughout the country for this study. Time to take a professional approach.
Chick, so who's the "vicious" one?
Totally agree. But I don;t believe you necessarily need to be a football person to gauge someone's personality and how it might fit at CU. Also, I suppose CU could say that Diane was part of the organization that drove success at Cornell as defense to your theory about having an AD with prior football success.
I am not arguing with anything you say only pointing out that Diane, football person or not, as the AD, should have weighed the risks of hiring someone with his personality for a job like this.
As a female fan said, "Lose the baby blue" (check out the N.C. Tarheels these days). I know we can't lose it entirely, but we need more black, like our Rose Bowl team had (check the old pics).Image counts, especially in football.
WOF, Coach answered for me above.
Coach
CAEC has been asking CU for exactly what you describe for over a year. We have been met with disdain and a wall of silence.
This will change only when the admin gets shoved out of its comfort zone.
I think it's starting.
Andy Noel, the AD at Cornell, hired Mangurian - Murphy was not in the loop- having said that, Murphy was very well liked by all the football coaches at Cornell.
I just think it becomes easier for Columbia football to have an AD who really understands the league- admissions and financial aid, and a football background-Would like to see a list of prospects that have Ivy League administrative experience, as Diane had, I will say, but with a football background.
Uniforms don't mean anything and UNC has not had any success at all. In fact, their entire athletics program is at risk thanks to an academic fraud scandal.
Allie, that is a major cop out.
I don't think you can say "uniforms don't mean anything." I've often seen comments regarding recruits who weigh the uniform factor into their choice of schools. Oregon, for one, has done quite well with their focus on uniforms, and there are many others who evolve and change to suit the times and temper of their program. A strong-looking uniform, while not guaranteeing victory, is a plus. We could stand some improvement in that area.
Imbecile
Coach, I agree with much of what you said, but this coach was no success. if anybody did any leg work they would have quickly realized he was hated by many of his former players and other coaches. This doesn't make him a bad coach, but it should have tipped the cap to those that "know" what to look for. Oh wait, we dont have any of those people on the selction committee.
Mangurian's rep in the NFL was that he was very smart, excellent coach, but a "hard-ass", tough, and sometimes difficult to work with. That can be said,however, for many successful coaches .
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