The crowd was great! The facilities looked fantastic! The event of homecoming gets better every year. Even the Dartmouth fans remarked how nice the events were...
It's something to be very, VERY proud of. Dartmouth did their part, intentionally playing at half speed to get down to CU's performance level. The only thing they could have been more considerate about was going with their 3rd string the whole game.
Forget the score. Teevens held it down. This program is a travesty, an embarrassment, and a disgrace. Mangurian is the worst college coach in recorded history. Murphy is the worst AD in all of college sports.
In the WKCR interview, PM said that his team has been progressing each year and that they are leaps and bounds ahead of where Norries left them. At 0-16 (and counting), this was a disaster. We couldn't even be competitive against a second string quarterback.
We are smaller, slower, and weaker than vey opponent we play. They we throwing us around like rag dolls. At this point, it's just sad.
Well, Hempel is back for Harvard. racking up 49 points to a measly 7 for Princeton in garbage time shows how much difference it makes to have him in there. He was injured very early in their first game and is just back this weekend. The backup is mediocre. I bet Tim Murphy will show incredible leniency and not play any of his starters or 2nd string against Columbia. That's what this has come to. Other teams feeling sorry for the players and treating them as a charity case.
ok, this is just a disgrace. Dartmouth played its starters for a few minutes, did not start their best player, and we still lost. At what point does somebody just step in and say, Hey Napoleon, it aint working and you are gone? we endure this watching and the kids have to endure this on the field. I understand that Pete gave a talk at the dinner Friday night where Tellier was honored. In his talk he mentioned that he doesn't have a disease. I believe he was speaking about nobody wanting to speak with him. Hello, Gump, what did you think would happen when you basically told alums to fuck off? Here is a buck, go dip into a clue bag and buy some clues...the most important that you are possibly the worst coach in the history of Columbia, which is really saying something. and for the love of God, stop bullying KCR kids who actually want some straight answers to the success or failure of this program. to those that support this clown, you really have proven that you have no business in participating in anything related to football and I don't care how much money has been given.
Sorry, I wasn't sure if Pete got this loss, or Ray Tellier, since he was honorary coach for the game.
It's sad when other teams simply use the Columbia game as a scrimmage. Every week we are outclassed at every position. Just let him go so that we all can move on.
By the way, Columbia lost every Homecoming contest this weekend. Volleyball lost. Men's soccer lost. Women's soccer lost. Football lost to Dartmouth's scrubs. But let's give Murphy a full year to keep screwing things up and make sure Mangurian is around to ruin another four games and a year of recruiting.
When will Bill C., the Nathan's Hot Dog Committee, Diane and Bollinger realize that they were WRONG? Yesterday was an embarrassment that they saw live and upfront. After three years, we've gone steadily backwards...
If they want a spike for "Giving Day", then the administration should do us all a favor and give us Pete's resignation. If not, then DO NOT GIVE! It's that simple!
How is going 0-17, playing against other team's 2nd teams (and losing by record measure), moving the program in the right direction? Can someone tell me? Please...
Dartmouth announced Dalyn Williams, first-string QB, was held out yesterday " for precautionary reasons." Precaution against their committing manslaughter, no doubt.
Jake, I recall Bollinger saying bluntly after last season about the idea of replacing Mango before his contract ends: "Thst's not going to happen." Said he deserves more time. Bollywood can dismiss his own words as he often does, but do you think he will in this case, or keep PM another year? Seems tricky to keep him when a new AD will be arriving, unless Bolly has already decided the new AD will be a clone of Murphy.
Mango: “I’d challenge anybody to say that they didn’t see every kid on the field playing as hard as he could possibly play and doing everything he could possibly do until the end of the game,”
The MVP of the game has to be Buddy Teevens for being in full control of the outcome and executing the strategy to perfection. As if playing chess against himself. "We're going to win convincingly (after all this is football, we can't not try but we won't embarrass you any more than we need to win the game and get all our guys - all 4 deep- some PT"
Bob Kent, you are right. If that's the best that he has, then we're in trouble... And HE recruited most of these kids! Another Frosh starting on O-Line, are you kidding me?
Al- you are spot on with the game MVP... Teevens wins hands down. He didn't want his first team to get hurt in a scrimmage.
I'm not sure if any of you noticed, but Dartmouth lead drummer put on a uniform at halftime so that he could Letter.
"Ivy League Eases Standards to Bolster Columbia Football",dated November18, 1987. Please re-read article, and hopefully, you agree that this action needs to be repeated.
I am completely shocked that sports minded influential alumni like Robert Kraft haven't intervened either privately or publically to stop this administration from humiliating this University.
You make a good point, but Kraft is also too much in awe of Bill Campbell and he is too shy to intervene. Campbell is a good person, but he's only one man and hasn't been able to get us a good coach for decades. He needs to turn things over to someone else, and not a crony like Ted Gregory.
I am confused by the crony power structure and relationship to donors. If I'm giving big money I want straight talk. How can you donate millions yet not see things for what they are? Do these super rich guys like Kraft and Campbell just like hobnobbing? Is that the point? To just be part of something without saying anything meaningful?
I think there are a lot of people who long to be a buddy of Billy C. As far as Billy C's own motivation, I think he has far too much respect for the administration as a whole.
Here we go once again -blaming it on the coaches and not the University! If anything, the problem with Billy is that he has always let the Administration or the football committee choose the coach- has never actively searched for the coach.That is a shame because he is the only person at the school that really knows football.
What will be telling is if Robert's grandson, Harry (quarterback at Belmont Hill School), goes to Harvard to play football and not Columbia. To be honest, the way that this program is being run, can you blame him?
Coach, most of what you just wrote is not accurate. I think you are correct in so far as Campbell wanting a winning program, but he has a hand in selecting the people who do the work on the coaches selection. There is No doubt the university is to blame for many of the shortcomings, but this coach just sucks period. Billy can and does control much of what happens. That in itself doesn't mean he wants to lose, just that the process is a poor one and needs to be changed.
Thanks for your thoughts; I obviously don't know Kraft at all but I wouldn't think he would be as successful as he has become or as influential in the NFL if he were afraid to speak up or inject themselves in the process. I am sure he hears the jabs from fellow Ivy Alumni he socializes with about the performance of his Alma Mater. I'm certain that everytime he goes into McDonald's after the Princeton Grad takes his order he gives him some good natured ribbings. :) All joking aside am hopeful that there is some pressure being appied behind the scenes to correct this embarrasment.
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The crowd was great! The facilities looked fantastic! The event of homecoming gets better every year. Even the Dartmouth fans remarked how nice the events were...
It's something to be very, VERY proud of. Dartmouth did their part, intentionally playing at half speed to get down to CU's performance level. The only thing they could have been more considerate about was going with their 3rd string the whole game.
Forget the score. Teevens held it down. This program is a travesty, an embarrassment, and a disgrace. Mangurian is the worst college coach in recorded history. Murphy is the worst AD in all of college sports.
In the WKCR interview, PM said that his team has been progressing each year and that they are leaps and bounds ahead of where Norries left them. At 0-16 (and counting), this was a disaster. We couldn't even be competitive against a second string quarterback.
We are smaller, slower, and weaker than vey opponent we play. They we throwing us around like rag dolls. At this point, it's just sad.
Actually, it's 17 straight losses now.
Well, Hempel is back for Harvard. racking up 49 points to a measly 7 for Princeton in garbage time shows how much difference it makes to have him in there. He was injured very early in their first game and is just back this weekend. The backup is mediocre. I bet Tim Murphy will show incredible leniency and not play any of his starters or 2nd string against Columbia. That's what this has come to. Other teams feeling sorry for the players and treating them as a charity case.
ok, this is just a disgrace. Dartmouth played its starters for a few minutes, did not start their best player, and we still lost.
At what point does somebody just step in and say, Hey Napoleon, it aint working and you are gone? we endure this watching and the kids have to endure this on the field.
I understand that Pete gave a talk at the dinner Friday night where Tellier was honored. In his talk he mentioned that he doesn't have a disease. I believe he was speaking about nobody wanting to speak with him. Hello, Gump, what did you think would happen when you basically told alums to fuck off?
Here is a buck, go dip into a clue bag and buy some clues...the most important that you are possibly the worst coach in the history of Columbia, which is really saying something.
and for the love of God, stop bullying KCR kids who actually want some straight answers to the success or failure of this program.
to those that support this clown, you really have proven that you have no business in participating in anything related to football and I don't care how much money has been given.
Sorry, I wasn't sure if Pete got this loss, or Ray Tellier, since he was honorary coach for the game.
It's sad when other teams simply use the Columbia game as a scrimmage. Every week we are outclassed at every position. Just let him go so that we all can move on.
So Bollinger, Schiller and Campbell were working the tent at Homecoming. How long did they stay? How can they look at us in the face?
By the way, Columbia lost every Homecoming contest this weekend. Volleyball lost. Men's soccer lost. Women's soccer lost. Football lost to Dartmouth's scrubs. But let's give Murphy a full year to keep screwing things up and make sure Mangurian is around to ruin another four games and a year of recruiting.
When will Bill C., the Nathan's Hot Dog Committee, Diane and Bollinger realize that they were WRONG? Yesterday was an embarrassment that they saw live and upfront. After three years, we've gone steadily backwards...
If they want a spike for "Giving Day", then the administration should do us all a favor and give us Pete's resignation. If not, then DO NOT GIVE! It's that simple!
How is going 0-17, playing against other team's 2nd teams (and losing by record measure), moving the program in the right direction? Can someone tell me? Please...
Dartmouth announced Dalyn Williams, first-string QB, was held out yesterday " for precautionary reasons." Precaution against their committing manslaughter, no doubt.
Jake, I recall Bollinger saying bluntly after last season about the idea of replacing Mango before his contract ends: "Thst's not going to happen." Said he deserves more time. Bollywood can dismiss his own words as he often does, but do you think he will in this case, or keep PM another year? Seems tricky to keep him when a new AD will be arriving, unless Bolly has already decided the new AD will be a clone of Murphy.
Mango: “I’d challenge anybody to say that they didn’t see every kid on the field playing as hard as he could possibly play and doing everything he could possibly do until the end of the game,”
Losers always whine about doing their best......
The MVP of the game has to be Buddy Teevens for being in full control of the outcome and executing the strategy to perfection. As if playing chess against himself. "We're going to win convincingly (after all this is football, we can't not try but we won't embarrass you any more than we need to win the game and get all our guys - all 4 deep- some PT"
Bob Kent, you are right. If that's the best that he has, then we're in trouble... And HE recruited most of these kids! Another Frosh starting on O-Line, are you kidding me?
Al- you are spot on with the game MVP... Teevens wins hands down. He didn't want his first team to get hurt in a scrimmage.
I'm not sure if any of you noticed, but Dartmouth lead drummer put on a uniform at halftime so that he could Letter.
You can't make this stuff up!
"Ivy League Eases Standards to Bolster Columbia Football",dated November18, 1987. Please re-read article, and hopefully, you agree that this action needs to be repeated.
He said what???? Leaps and bounds ahead of where norries left the??? Gentlemen I am now officially perturbed..
I am completely shocked that sports minded influential alumni like Robert Kraft haven't intervened either privately or publically to stop this administration from humiliating this University.
Christine:
You make a good point, but Kraft is also too much in awe of Bill Campbell and he is too shy to intervene. Campbell is a good person, but he's only one man and hasn't been able to get us a good coach for decades. He needs to turn things over to someone else, and not a crony like Ted Gregory.
I am confused by the crony power structure and relationship to donors. If I'm giving big money I want straight talk. How can you donate millions yet not see things for what they are? Do these super rich guys like Kraft and Campbell just like hobnobbing? Is that the point? To just be part of something without saying anything meaningful?
I think there are a lot of people who long to be a buddy of Billy C. As far as Billy C's own motivation, I think he has far too much respect for the administration as a whole.
Here we go once again -blaming it on the coaches and not the University!
If anything, the problem with Billy is that he has always let the Administration or the football committee choose the coach- has never actively searched for the coach.That is a shame because he is the only person at the school that really knows football.
What will be telling is if Robert's grandson, Harry (quarterback at Belmont Hill School), goes to Harvard to play football and not Columbia. To be honest, the way that this program is being run, can you blame him?
Coach, most of what you just wrote is not accurate. I think you are correct in so far as Campbell wanting a winning program, but he has a hand in selecting the people who do the work on the coaches selection. There is No doubt the university is to blame for many of the shortcomings, but this coach just sucks period.
Billy can and does control much of what happens. That in itself doesn't mean he wants to lose, just that the process is a poor one and needs to be changed.
That tears it then. I won't spend another penny at The Old Pro. I'll be an awkward presence at some other coed bar.
Hey Jake:
Thanks for your thoughts; I obviously don't know Kraft at all but I wouldn't think he would be as successful as he has become or as influential in the NFL if he were afraid to speak up or inject themselves in the process. I am sure he hears the jabs from fellow Ivy Alumni he socializes with about the performance of his Alma Mater. I'm certain that everytime he goes into McDonald's after the Princeton Grad takes his order he gives him some good natured ribbings. :) All joking aside am hopeful that there is some pressure being appied behind the scenes to correct this embarrasment.
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